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A married writing team from California, Tom and Mary Bierbaum discuss their work on the Lightning feature in Wally Wood's T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents for Deluxe Comics, which came about through their long friendship with Keith Giffen, initially forged through the Legion of Super-Heroes Amateur Press Association (Interlac). They explain that Giffen handles the majority of the plotting, with Tom doing rough scripts that he and Mary then polish together, and they praise Giffen's commitment to artistic growth over commercial comfort. They also reflect on the decline of younger comics readership, the value of APAs as training grounds for aspiring professionals, and their admiration for writers like Paul Levitz who tell stories through dialogue and art rather than heavy narration.