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Lewis (Mayfair's comptroller) and Gorden (freelance designer) discuss the just-renamed DC Heroes Role Playing Game — originally called "DC Superpowers," a title dropped as too juvenile. Gorden explains his design philosophy: a universal two-chart mechanic that handles everything from Batman's detective skills to Superman's powers without a proliferation of special exceptions, inspired by his earlier work on the James Bond 007 RPG. A key innovation is the sub-plots system, which rewards players for maintaining character relationships and personal storylines, capturing the soap-opera texture of comics. They describe extensive collaboration with DC — Gorden met with Wolfman in Las Vegas to fine-tune the Teen Titans stats — and note that the game's release is deliberately timed to coincide with Crisis on Infinite Earths' conclusion.