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A detailed interview with the brothers behind Eclipse Comics, conducted over a Middle Eastern restaurant meal. They recount Eclipse's founding in 1977 with the SABRE graphic novel (the first direct-sales graphic novel), their early commitment to creator ownership and royalties, and the organic growth of the company through titles like Detectives Inc., Stewart the Rat, Ms. Tree, DNAgents, and Destroyer Duck. They discuss the deadline difficulties inherent in working with creator-owned titles, the dynamics of "friendly competition" with Pacific and First, Eclipse's upcoming expansion (Aztec Ace, ZOT!, Star*Reach Classics), and their philosophy of keeping the line varied and quality-focused rather than chasing market trends. Jan draws on his parallel music-industry experience to analyze fan market behavior.